Indices of the Hadley circulation strength and associated circulation trends

Pikovnik, Matic; Zaplotnik, Žiga; Boljka, Lina; Žagar, Nedjeljka

doi:https://doi.org/10.5194/wcd-2021-50

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https://doi.org/10.5194/wcd-2021-50

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29 Jul 2021

Status: a revised version of this preprint was accepted for the journal WCD and is expected to appear here in due course.

Indices of the Hadley circulation strength and associated circulation trends

Matic Pikovnik¹, Žiga Zaplotnik¹, Lina Boljka², and Nedjeljka Žagar³ Matic Pikovnik et al.

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¹Faculty of Mathematics and Physics, University of Ljubljana, Ljubljana, 1000, Slovenia
²Geophysical Institute and Bjerknes Centre for Climate Research, University of Bergen, Bergen, 5020, Norway
³Meteorological Institute, Center for Earth System Research and Sustainability, Universität Hamburg, Hamburg, 20146, Germany

Received: 25 Jul 2021 – Discussion started: 29 Jul 2021

Abstract. This study compares the trends of Hadley cell (HC) strength using different HC measures applied to the ECMWF ERA5 and ERA-Interim reanalyses in the period 1979–2018. The HC strength is commonly evaluated by indices derived from the mass-weighted zonal-mean stream function. Other measures include the velocity potential and the vertical velocity. Six known measures of the HC strength are complemented by a measure of the average HC strength, obtained by averaging the stream function in the latitude-pressure (φ-p) plane, and by the total energy of unbalanced zonal-mean circulation in the normal-mode function decomposition. It is shown that measures of the HC strength, which rely on point values in the φ-p plane, produce unreliable long-term trends of both the northern and southern HCs, especially in ERA-Interim; magnitudes and even the signs of trends depend on the choice of HC strength measure. The two new measures alleviate the vertical and meridional inhomogeneities of the trends in the HC strength. In both reanalyses, there is a positive trend in the total energy of zonal-mean unbalanced circulation. The average HC strength measure also shows a positive trend in ERA5 in both hemispheres, while the trend in ERA-Interim is insignificant.

Matic Pikovnik et al.

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RC1:
'Comment on wcd-2021-50', Anonymous Referee #1, 17 Aug 2021

Review of 'Indices of the Hadley circulation strength and associated circulation trends' by Pikovnik et al.

General comments:

This manuscript compares 8 measures of the HC strength derived from ERA5 and ERA-interim ranalysis datasets. Their main findings are that measures based on a single vertical level are more subject to uncertainty and inhomogeneity while measure based on spatial average or integration are more robust. They concluded that the measure of the average HC strength is best suited for studying variability and trends.

The comparison is interesting and the conclusions are pertinent. However, 7 out of the 8 measures are derived directly or indirectly from the zonal mean streamfunction, which explain the high correlations between measures. The one measure not derived from the streamfunction is deemed inadequate for the purpose of this study and needs further refinement. Perhaps it would have been important to compare independent measures of the HC strength and quantify their relative relevance rather than the 7 measures proposed here as it is intuitive that capturing the HC by taking into account both its meridional and vertical extent would be more robust than from a single location.

Specific comments:

I find it strange to chose 2 versions of the ECMWF reanalysis instead of 2 new generation products such as ERA5 and CFSR for a more independent comparison. It's been reported that ERA5 is an improved version of ERAI with many significant fixed errors therefore the discrepancies found by the authors maybe attributed to those improvements.

Technical corrections:

L46: suggest replace '…are the trend… the pressure level.' by '…the trend… the pressure level are.'

Section 2.2: this should go in the result section, not in the methods section

L177: suggest remove 'also'

L182: what do the authors mean by 'merely showcase'?

Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/wcd-2021-50-RC1
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Žiga Zaplotnik, 09 Sep 2021
  
  We thank the reviewer for their constructive comments.
  As the Reviewer points out, our suggestion that the measures of the HC strength that take into account both the meridional and vertical extent of the global HC are overall better indices than the HC measures based on local values may be intuitive. The time series of the stream function-based indices are aligned (Fig. 3) and highly correlated (Fig. 5), however, the differences become important when one computes the HC trends and quantifies their uncertainties. This is the first lesson from our comparison of independent measures of the HC strength. We applied the measures from previous studies to bring our results into the context of the reported trends in the HC strength. We agree that the trends based on other independent measures could be explored, such as the water vapor flow in Sohn and Park (JGR, 2013). This measure will be included additionally in the revised manuscript.
  It is unclear how to quantify their relative relevance if we do not have a reference (or generally agreed) HC measure to which various other measures can be compared. It is in this context that we introduced a new, energy-based integral measure of the HC strength. The unbalanced energy of the zonal mean circulation is straightforward to derive for gridded datasets and it includes all 3 spatial dimensions of the unbalanced circulation. We are not sure what the reviewer finds confusing about the unbalanced energy measure, but we provide a further explanation here. Clearly, it is different from the stream function, but also omega and geopotential measure, and more research can be done to refine it, especially to differentiate between the northern and southern branches of the Hadley cell. But our figure A2 suggests that the global unbalanced energy is an adequate description of the HC. We believe that it is a suitable measure also for an intercomparison of reanalyses and climate model datasets analyzed in terms of the normal-mode functions.
  In their specific comment, the Reviewer points out that ERA5 is a more advanced and therefore more reliable reanalysis dataset than ERA-Interim. We could not agree more and we will point this out in the revised paper. Although relatively few evaluations of the CFSR have been conducted and thus its performance is not well-known, we believe that CFSR is much more advanced than the NCEP-NCAR reanalyses. Yet, many researchers would argue that even the NCEP-NCAR reanalyses suffice for the description of the large-scale circulation. Even though ERA5 is available, many scientists rely on ERA-Interim and precisely a comparison of tropical aspects in the ERA5 and ERA-Interim, which have been the subject of several recent papers, motivated our study initially. The tropics remain the regions with the largest analysis uncertainties (e.g. Žagar et al., 2020, J. Clim) but the four modern reanalyses (ERA5, ERA-Interim, JRA55, and MERRA) agree relatively well regarding the large-scale tropical circulation. The total energy of the zonal mean unbalanced flow shows positive trends in both ERA5 and ERA-Interim, although weaker in the former, a result consistent with the overall quality of the representation of large-scale circulation in the reanalyses. Note, however, that the only aim of choosing another reanalysis besides ERA5 was to show that the strong sensitivity of HC strength trends are not an isolated feature of a particular (e.g. ERA5) reanalysis, as stated in lines 262-265.
  Response to technical corrections:
  > L46: suggest replace '…are the trend… the pressure level.' by '…the trend… the pressure level are.'
  Will be corrected.
  > Section 2.2: this should go in the result section, not in the methods section
  We agree with the proposed reordering.
  > L177: suggest remove 'also'
  Will be corrected.
  > L182: what do the authors mean by 'merely showcase'?
  Will be corrected to a more neutral form: Figs. 2, A3 showcase the stronger year-to-year variability of monthly means...
  
  Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/wcd-2021-50-AC1
- AC3: 'Reply on RC1', Žiga Zaplotnik, 12 Nov 2021
  
  We provide the final response in the supplement.
  
  Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/wcd-2021-50-AC3
RC2:
'Comment on wcd-2021-50', Anonymous Referee #2, 15 Oct 2021
It’s nice to see Pikovnik et al.’s work comparing indices of Hadley cell strength. As a member of recent working groups on Hadley cell width, I think a paper like this is long overdue. I appreciate Pikovnik’s diligence in comparing indices as a function of level and latitude, and noting the impact of changing altitude or latitude on the trends from indices where the maximum value (i.e. of the stream function) is picked wherever it occurs. (An example of a paper that uses this metric is below.)

I am interested in the normal mode-based metric. I found the description in the paper inadequate; wording like “unbalanced flow” is foreign to those of us who haven’t read up on the normal mode decomposition. In fact, the relationship between normal modes and the Hadley cell is not intuitively obvious; when I first read that there was a normal mode-based metric, I thought, “this must be a usage of normal mode besides what I’m thinking.” But when I read a bit of Zagar & J. Tribbia (2020), I saw that the usage of normal modes was precisely what I was used to, and “unbalanced flow” describes flow that is not in thermal wind balance. Not surprisingly, the overturning one can deduce from the unbalanced flow – see Figures 12 and 14 of Zagar and Tribbia (2020) – looks very much like the overturning one can deduce from the divergent flow – see Figure 2 of Staten et al. (2019).

This regionality may help explain the shortcomings of metric 8, and its lack of correlation with the other metrics. I noticed that metric 8 uses only the energy from the k=0 unbalanced flow mode. This makes sense inasmuch as the Hadley circulation is zonally uniform. But in reality, the Hadley cell has centers of action, and there are even longitudes with counter-Hadley-cell-wise circulations. Much of the activity of interest when we study the Hadley circulation may be regionally focus. Perhaps the observed regional variations that are changing the zonal ψ-based metric are simply not captured by the changing energy of the k=0 unbalanced mode. I wonder whether including the energy from modes with k<=4 (in the tropics and subtropics) into a metric like metric 8 would help to capture the kinds of variations that are producing the temporal variations in ψ-based metrics.

It must be a little disappointing to create such an interesting and seemingly holistic metric…only for it to apparently underperform. It is a credit to the authors that they acknowledge its underperformance in this case. I can’t help but wonder if there’s more to it, though.

Another outgrowth of Hadley cell width working group efforts that may be of use for the authors was the TropD software written by Ori Adam (see Adam et al., 2018). This software is built for detecting just the kind of metrics Pikovnik et al. use, and does so in a careful manner. I recommend trying the code and verifying that the metrics (or a subset of them) calculated by Pikovnik match those by Adam’s software. The detection of extrema is particularly thoughtfully handled in TropD. It would also ensure that your results are intercomparible with those of other recent papers, such as Menzel & Waugh (2019).

Menzel & Waugh’s work is worth citing, I think, even though it is nominally about the subtropical jet, rather than Hadley cell intensity. In it, they find that the subtropical jet position is more closely related to Hadley cell intensity than Hadley cell width (and that Hadley cell width is more closely related to the speed of the subtropical jet than to its position). I think this could be cited in the introduction section, as a bit of motivation for studying Hadley cell intensity, as well as another example of a paper that uses metric 1. Also, it is interesting to note that the intensity of the zonal mean overturning (which is mathematically equivalent, I think, to the zonal mean of the overturning due to the “unbalanced” flow) would be so highly correlated with the subtropical jet, which is thought of as being in thermal wind balance.

I am concerned about the use of the Mann-Kendall test for significance. This test requires data to have no autocorrelation. The authors say they use a “modified” version, but the paper does not say how or why it was modified, nor does it address the issue of auto-correlation in the time series. Figure 1 has large regions of weak signal (for example, during March in the lower troposphere over the SH) that are marked as significant. Much of this region is not marked as significant in ERA-Interim (Figure A1). Of course, differences in the trend from one dataset to another do not imply that the trend in one dataset is not significantly significant in that dataset. But perhaps the calculation of significance needs to be handled more circumspectly. That said, I appreciated how careful the authors were to distinguish between a trend that happens to be in the time series and trend related to forced climate change.

Little grammatical errors, odd wording, and writing problems are scattered through the paper. I’ll mention just a couple, but the paper deserves some careful editing to fix these problems.

The rest of my suggestions are mainly editorial.

Line 28: “minimum pressure velocity” is mathematically correct but also a bit confusing when what is being described is maximum ascent

Line 30: “the studies” is better as “studies” here, since a specific group of studies has not been referred to.

Line 42: I can see why this sentence about Nguyen et al. appears in the same paragraph as the preceding list, but the topic of the sentence feels like it belongs in a new paragraph. It’s also a little disappointing that the results from Nguyen et al. aren’t described here; all that is said is that they have relevant results. I suggest making this a new paragraph, and continuing by mentioning their relevant results. (And if they’re not really relevant, the sentence could perhaps be deleted.)

Line 46: “we assess how sensitive are the trends” is awkward. “we assess how sensitive the trends are” is better.

Line 50: It is taken for granted here that readers will understand what the “unbalanced” global circulation is, even though this is not a phrase

Line 60: While details are fine to be left in citations, some description or summary for the reader would be appreciated

Line 69: “an extend” should be “the extent”

Line 70: “a part of the 40-year trends in the HC strength may be due to the multi-decadal variability.” This is (virtually) given. Any time series can be decomposed into a trend + variability + error/noise. Say something more specific, or get rid of the sentence.

Line 74: I don’t know if “feature” is the right word. It sounds like you are going to describe a particular anomaly. It might be better to say, simply, “Note that trends in…”

Line 81–82: as I mentioned above, in addition to the reliability of some climate model trends being called into question, I would question the reliability of the statistical significance test used here.

Lines 145–147: Of course the same feature (namely climatology) can be seen in Figure 1: Figure 1 is the climatology. Why not say, “Normalization accounts for some of these differences; normalized results are discussed near the end of Section 3.2 (see Figure 4).”

Line 164: I don’t know that “spurious” is the right word to describe point-wise trends. Maybe “non-representative” or “isolated.” The point is not that the trends are wrong, but that they are probably not what the authors or readers are interested in.

Line 175: “the measure of average HC strength” is vague. If it is a monthly average, any of these ψ-based metrics could be described this way.

Line 243: “Insignificant correlations are not surprising as this index is largely different from all other indices.” This is not the most satisfying or meaningful sentence. What does largely different mean? If the unbalanced flow is thought to be largely related to Hadley cell-wise circulation, isn’t a higher correlation expected? I can’t imagine the authors went through the effort to define this metric if they expected the correlations to be insignificant.

Line 246: “unimportant for the overall signal, but it may be important for the trends”. What is the difference between the signal and the trends? Often “signal” is used to describe “trends” and “noise”, is used to describe year-to-year or decade-to-decade “variability.” Did the authors mean “signal” or “climatology”?

Lines 250–252: Does this result imply that metric 8 is going to be sensitive to increasing tropopause height?

Line 265: “This was made evident by a new HC strength measure.” It is not clear what was made evident, or how it was made evident.

Line 285: Based on my working group experience on Hadley cell width, I am skeptical of the idea of a “unified index.” Different metrics for Hadley cell width are of interest to different people for different reasons, even if their trends differ. If we created a unified index, there would be information missing from that index for each group. A unified index for Hadley cell strength would not capture simultaneously the differences between hemispheres, between regions, and in the deep tropical upwelling. Upper tropospheric circulation may be of interest to people studying the stratosphere or the tropical tropopause region, while mass is concentrated in the lower troposphere, so mass-weighted measures will leave them out.

References:

Adam et al., 2018: dx.doi.org/10.5194/gmd-11-4339-2018

Menzel & Waugh, 2019: dx.doi.org/10.1029/2019GL083345

Staten et al., 2019: dx.doi.org/10.1029/2018JD030100
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/wcd-2021-50-RC2
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Žiga Zaplotnik, 12 Nov 2021
  
  We provide the response in the supplement.
  
  Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/wcd-2021-50-AC2

Status: closed

RC1:
'Comment on wcd-2021-50', Anonymous Referee #1, 17 Aug 2021

Review of 'Indices of the Hadley circulation strength and associated circulation trends' by Pikovnik et al.

General comments:

This manuscript compares 8 measures of the HC strength derived from ERA5 and ERA-interim ranalysis datasets. Their main findings are that measures based on a single vertical level are more subject to uncertainty and inhomogeneity while measure based on spatial average or integration are more robust. They concluded that the measure of the average HC strength is best suited for studying variability and trends.

The comparison is interesting and the conclusions are pertinent. However, 7 out of the 8 measures are derived directly or indirectly from the zonal mean streamfunction, which explain the high correlations between measures. The one measure not derived from the streamfunction is deemed inadequate for the purpose of this study and needs further refinement. Perhaps it would have been important to compare independent measures of the HC strength and quantify their relative relevance rather than the 7 measures proposed here as it is intuitive that capturing the HC by taking into account both its meridional and vertical extent would be more robust than from a single location.

Specific comments:

I find it strange to chose 2 versions of the ECMWF reanalysis instead of 2 new generation products such as ERA5 and CFSR for a more independent comparison. It's been reported that ERA5 is an improved version of ERAI with many significant fixed errors therefore the discrepancies found by the authors maybe attributed to those improvements.

Technical corrections:

L46: suggest replace '…are the trend… the pressure level.' by '…the trend… the pressure level are.'

Section 2.2: this should go in the result section, not in the methods section

L177: suggest remove 'also'

L182: what do the authors mean by 'merely showcase'?

Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/wcd-2021-50-RC1
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Žiga Zaplotnik, 09 Sep 2021
  
  We thank the reviewer for their constructive comments.
  As the Reviewer points out, our suggestion that the measures of the HC strength that take into account both the meridional and vertical extent of the global HC are overall better indices than the HC measures based on local values may be intuitive. The time series of the stream function-based indices are aligned (Fig. 3) and highly correlated (Fig. 5), however, the differences become important when one computes the HC trends and quantifies their uncertainties. This is the first lesson from our comparison of independent measures of the HC strength. We applied the measures from previous studies to bring our results into the context of the reported trends in the HC strength. We agree that the trends based on other independent measures could be explored, such as the water vapor flow in Sohn and Park (JGR, 2013). This measure will be included additionally in the revised manuscript.
  It is unclear how to quantify their relative relevance if we do not have a reference (or generally agreed) HC measure to which various other measures can be compared. It is in this context that we introduced a new, energy-based integral measure of the HC strength. The unbalanced energy of the zonal mean circulation is straightforward to derive for gridded datasets and it includes all 3 spatial dimensions of the unbalanced circulation. We are not sure what the reviewer finds confusing about the unbalanced energy measure, but we provide a further explanation here. Clearly, it is different from the stream function, but also omega and geopotential measure, and more research can be done to refine it, especially to differentiate between the northern and southern branches of the Hadley cell. But our figure A2 suggests that the global unbalanced energy is an adequate description of the HC. We believe that it is a suitable measure also for an intercomparison of reanalyses and climate model datasets analyzed in terms of the normal-mode functions.
  In their specific comment, the Reviewer points out that ERA5 is a more advanced and therefore more reliable reanalysis dataset than ERA-Interim. We could not agree more and we will point this out in the revised paper. Although relatively few evaluations of the CFSR have been conducted and thus its performance is not well-known, we believe that CFSR is much more advanced than the NCEP-NCAR reanalyses. Yet, many researchers would argue that even the NCEP-NCAR reanalyses suffice for the description of the large-scale circulation. Even though ERA5 is available, many scientists rely on ERA-Interim and precisely a comparison of tropical aspects in the ERA5 and ERA-Interim, which have been the subject of several recent papers, motivated our study initially. The tropics remain the regions with the largest analysis uncertainties (e.g. Žagar et al., 2020, J. Clim) but the four modern reanalyses (ERA5, ERA-Interim, JRA55, and MERRA) agree relatively well regarding the large-scale tropical circulation. The total energy of the zonal mean unbalanced flow shows positive trends in both ERA5 and ERA-Interim, although weaker in the former, a result consistent with the overall quality of the representation of large-scale circulation in the reanalyses. Note, however, that the only aim of choosing another reanalysis besides ERA5 was to show that the strong sensitivity of HC strength trends are not an isolated feature of a particular (e.g. ERA5) reanalysis, as stated in lines 262-265.
  Response to technical corrections:
  > L46: suggest replace '…are the trend… the pressure level.' by '…the trend… the pressure level are.'
  Will be corrected.
  > Section 2.2: this should go in the result section, not in the methods section
  We agree with the proposed reordering.
  > L177: suggest remove 'also'
  Will be corrected.
  > L182: what do the authors mean by 'merely showcase'?
  Will be corrected to a more neutral form: Figs. 2, A3 showcase the stronger year-to-year variability of monthly means...
  
  Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/wcd-2021-50-AC1
- AC3: 'Reply on RC1', Žiga Zaplotnik, 12 Nov 2021
  
  We provide the final response in the supplement.
  
  Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/wcd-2021-50-AC3
RC2:
'Comment on wcd-2021-50', Anonymous Referee #2, 15 Oct 2021
It’s nice to see Pikovnik et al.’s work comparing indices of Hadley cell strength. As a member of recent working groups on Hadley cell width, I think a paper like this is long overdue. I appreciate Pikovnik’s diligence in comparing indices as a function of level and latitude, and noting the impact of changing altitude or latitude on the trends from indices where the maximum value (i.e. of the stream function) is picked wherever it occurs. (An example of a paper that uses this metric is below.)

I am interested in the normal mode-based metric. I found the description in the paper inadequate; wording like “unbalanced flow” is foreign to those of us who haven’t read up on the normal mode decomposition. In fact, the relationship between normal modes and the Hadley cell is not intuitively obvious; when I first read that there was a normal mode-based metric, I thought, “this must be a usage of normal mode besides what I’m thinking.” But when I read a bit of Zagar & J. Tribbia (2020), I saw that the usage of normal modes was precisely what I was used to, and “unbalanced flow” describes flow that is not in thermal wind balance. Not surprisingly, the overturning one can deduce from the unbalanced flow – see Figures 12 and 14 of Zagar and Tribbia (2020) – looks very much like the overturning one can deduce from the divergent flow – see Figure 2 of Staten et al. (2019).

This regionality may help explain the shortcomings of metric 8, and its lack of correlation with the other metrics. I noticed that metric 8 uses only the energy from the k=0 unbalanced flow mode. This makes sense inasmuch as the Hadley circulation is zonally uniform. But in reality, the Hadley cell has centers of action, and there are even longitudes with counter-Hadley-cell-wise circulations. Much of the activity of interest when we study the Hadley circulation may be regionally focus. Perhaps the observed regional variations that are changing the zonal ψ-based metric are simply not captured by the changing energy of the k=0 unbalanced mode. I wonder whether including the energy from modes with k<=4 (in the tropics and subtropics) into a metric like metric 8 would help to capture the kinds of variations that are producing the temporal variations in ψ-based metrics.

It must be a little disappointing to create such an interesting and seemingly holistic metric…only for it to apparently underperform. It is a credit to the authors that they acknowledge its underperformance in this case. I can’t help but wonder if there’s more to it, though.

Another outgrowth of Hadley cell width working group efforts that may be of use for the authors was the TropD software written by Ori Adam (see Adam et al., 2018). This software is built for detecting just the kind of metrics Pikovnik et al. use, and does so in a careful manner. I recommend trying the code and verifying that the metrics (or a subset of them) calculated by Pikovnik match those by Adam’s software. The detection of extrema is particularly thoughtfully handled in TropD. It would also ensure that your results are intercomparible with those of other recent papers, such as Menzel & Waugh (2019).

Menzel & Waugh’s work is worth citing, I think, even though it is nominally about the subtropical jet, rather than Hadley cell intensity. In it, they find that the subtropical jet position is more closely related to Hadley cell intensity than Hadley cell width (and that Hadley cell width is more closely related to the speed of the subtropical jet than to its position). I think this could be cited in the introduction section, as a bit of motivation for studying Hadley cell intensity, as well as another example of a paper that uses metric 1. Also, it is interesting to note that the intensity of the zonal mean overturning (which is mathematically equivalent, I think, to the zonal mean of the overturning due to the “unbalanced” flow) would be so highly correlated with the subtropical jet, which is thought of as being in thermal wind balance.

I am concerned about the use of the Mann-Kendall test for significance. This test requires data to have no autocorrelation. The authors say they use a “modified” version, but the paper does not say how or why it was modified, nor does it address the issue of auto-correlation in the time series. Figure 1 has large regions of weak signal (for example, during March in the lower troposphere over the SH) that are marked as significant. Much of this region is not marked as significant in ERA-Interim (Figure A1). Of course, differences in the trend from one dataset to another do not imply that the trend in one dataset is not significantly significant in that dataset. But perhaps the calculation of significance needs to be handled more circumspectly. That said, I appreciated how careful the authors were to distinguish between a trend that happens to be in the time series and trend related to forced climate change.

Little grammatical errors, odd wording, and writing problems are scattered through the paper. I’ll mention just a couple, but the paper deserves some careful editing to fix these problems.

The rest of my suggestions are mainly editorial.

Line 28: “minimum pressure velocity” is mathematically correct but also a bit confusing when what is being described is maximum ascent

Line 30: “the studies” is better as “studies” here, since a specific group of studies has not been referred to.

Line 42: I can see why this sentence about Nguyen et al. appears in the same paragraph as the preceding list, but the topic of the sentence feels like it belongs in a new paragraph. It’s also a little disappointing that the results from Nguyen et al. aren’t described here; all that is said is that they have relevant results. I suggest making this a new paragraph, and continuing by mentioning their relevant results. (And if they’re not really relevant, the sentence could perhaps be deleted.)

Line 46: “we assess how sensitive are the trends” is awkward. “we assess how sensitive the trends are” is better.

Line 50: It is taken for granted here that readers will understand what the “unbalanced” global circulation is, even though this is not a phrase

Line 60: While details are fine to be left in citations, some description or summary for the reader would be appreciated

Line 69: “an extend” should be “the extent”

Line 70: “a part of the 40-year trends in the HC strength may be due to the multi-decadal variability.” This is (virtually) given. Any time series can be decomposed into a trend + variability + error/noise. Say something more specific, or get rid of the sentence.

Line 74: I don’t know if “feature” is the right word. It sounds like you are going to describe a particular anomaly. It might be better to say, simply, “Note that trends in…”

Line 81–82: as I mentioned above, in addition to the reliability of some climate model trends being called into question, I would question the reliability of the statistical significance test used here.

Lines 145–147: Of course the same feature (namely climatology) can be seen in Figure 1: Figure 1 is the climatology. Why not say, “Normalization accounts for some of these differences; normalized results are discussed near the end of Section 3.2 (see Figure 4).”

Line 164: I don’t know that “spurious” is the right word to describe point-wise trends. Maybe “non-representative” or “isolated.” The point is not that the trends are wrong, but that they are probably not what the authors or readers are interested in.

Line 175: “the measure of average HC strength” is vague. If it is a monthly average, any of these ψ-based metrics could be described this way.

Line 243: “Insignificant correlations are not surprising as this index is largely different from all other indices.” This is not the most satisfying or meaningful sentence. What does largely different mean? If the unbalanced flow is thought to be largely related to Hadley cell-wise circulation, isn’t a higher correlation expected? I can’t imagine the authors went through the effort to define this metric if they expected the correlations to be insignificant.

Line 246: “unimportant for the overall signal, but it may be important for the trends”. What is the difference between the signal and the trends? Often “signal” is used to describe “trends” and “noise”, is used to describe year-to-year or decade-to-decade “variability.” Did the authors mean “signal” or “climatology”?

Lines 250–252: Does this result imply that metric 8 is going to be sensitive to increasing tropopause height?

Line 265: “This was made evident by a new HC strength measure.” It is not clear what was made evident, or how it was made evident.

Line 285: Based on my working group experience on Hadley cell width, I am skeptical of the idea of a “unified index.” Different metrics for Hadley cell width are of interest to different people for different reasons, even if their trends differ. If we created a unified index, there would be information missing from that index for each group. A unified index for Hadley cell strength would not capture simultaneously the differences between hemispheres, between regions, and in the deep tropical upwelling. Upper tropospheric circulation may be of interest to people studying the stratosphere or the tropical tropopause region, while mass is concentrated in the lower troposphere, so mass-weighted measures will leave them out.

References:

Adam et al., 2018: dx.doi.org/10.5194/gmd-11-4339-2018

Menzel & Waugh, 2019: dx.doi.org/10.1029/2019GL083345

Staten et al., 2019: dx.doi.org/10.1029/2018JD030100
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/wcd-2021-50-RC2
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Žiga Zaplotnik, 12 Nov 2021
  
  We provide the response in the supplement.
  
  Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/wcd-2021-50-AC2

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Aug 2021	81	39	3	123
Sep 2021	65	25	2	92
Oct 2021	58	28	5	91
Nov 2021	47	40	5	92
Dec 2021	30	21	2	53
Jan 2022	52	13	0	65
Feb 2022	33	24	1	58
Mar 2022	24	18	4	46
Apr 2022	21	11	0	32
May 2022	15	7	1	23

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Month	HTML	PDF	XML	Total
Jul 2021	74	22	2	98
Aug 2021	81	39	3	123
Sep 2021	65	25	2	92
Oct 2021	58	28	5	91
Nov 2021	47	40	5	92
Dec 2021	30	21	2	53
Jan 2022	52	13	0	65
Feb 2022	33	24	1	58
Mar 2022	24	18	4	46
Apr 2022	21	11	0	32
May 2022	15	7	1	23

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Short summary

Potential future changes of the Hadley cells (HCs), either to their strength or their meridional extent, will have a profound impact on the global distribution of precipitation. An objective analysis of past and future changes of HCs requires a unified index of the their strength. The measures, which rely on the single point values, produce unreliable long-term trends of the HC strength. Thus, two new measures are proposed, which alleviate the spatial inhomogeneities of HC strength trends.


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