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https://doi.org/10.5194/wcd-6-231-2025
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Sensitivity of tropical orographic precipitation to wind speed with implications for future projections
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AR by Quentin Nicolas on behalf of the Authors (08 Jan 2025)
In this paper, the authors apply a theoretical framework they developed in previous work to evaluate the sensitivity of tropical orographic precipitation to changes in background wind speed. The theory predicts that precipitation increases with increasing wind speed by 20-30% per m/s, and find good agreement with this prediction in a numerical simulation using the Weather Research and Forecasting (WRF) model. They also find qualitative agreement with their prediction in observations.
The paper is well written. The result that tropical orographic precipitation doesn’t scale in proportion to the horizontal wind speed is interesting and has important implications for climate change impacts given possible future changes in the tropical circulation. The agreement between theory, models, and observations is imperfect but mostly convincing.
The main room for improvement, in my view, relates not to the analysis per se but to the way it’s explained. I like the authors’ approach of combining linear mountain-wave theory with a convective closure to study orographic enhancement of precipitation over tropical mountain ranges like the Western Ghats. However, aside from the two previous studies published by the same authors, this is a novel approach, and one that I suspect many readers will not be very familiar with. I think the authors should do more to explain the physical basis for their approach, including, for example, why they assume a dry static stability for the linear mountain wave solution, and why the convective closure of Ahmed (2022) makes sense in this context. I also think the authors could hold the reader’s hand a bit more on some of the more technical parts of the paper, especially when using their equations to draw physical conclusions. I note some specific areas of confusion for me below.
Sections 2 and 3: I may have missed it, but I couldn’t find any mention of the vertical humidity profile in either the theory or numerical modeling. Isn’t that important given that the lower tropospheric humidity perturbation is based on the vertical humidity gradient (Eq. 2)?
Line 93 and Fig. 1A: I understand why the depth of ascent would increase from a change in the vertical mountain wavelength, but I’m surprised there’s not an increase in the *magnitude* of eta (and thus T’) from an increase in U, given the lower boundary condition w=u*dh/dx (Fig. 1b). Later the authors note that the ratio of w/U increases in response to an increase in U, which I would expect to further amplify the T perturbation. What am I missing?
Section 3.3: I found this discussion of the role of theta_e’ to be confusing. The basic argument, as far as I can tell, is that there’s a theta_e perturbation that contributes to precipitation enhancement, and that this is tied to the greater vertical penetration of the mountain wave when U increases, since an increase in the vertical wavelength causes w/U to increase above the surface, and this in turn increases the vertical advection of theta_e. First, I didn’t find the evidence in Fig. 3c to be especially convincing given the large magnitude of the residual term. Also, shouldn’t the same increase in vertical advection also apply to T and q? In reality, the WRF simulations show no contribution from q' and a relatively modest contribution from T'. I think this disagreement between the theory and WRF simulations should receive more attention.
In summary, I think this is an important contribution, but I wish it provided a clearer physical explanation for why tropical orographic precipitation is so sensitive to perturbations in U. The simple theory that involves q and T seems relatively straightforward (aside from assumptions about the vertical profile of q). However, while this theory gives an accurate prediction for the precipitation increase simulated by WRF, it seems to do so for the wrong reasons, since WRF shows a negligible contribution from q’ and a large contribution from theta_e' (Fig. 2c). I think the authors should better explain how their theory can be reconciled with the WRF results.