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Intraseasonal variability of ocean surface wind waves in the western South Atlantic: the role of cyclones and the Pacific South American pattern
Carolina B. Gramcianinov
Belmiro Castro
Marcelo Dottori
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RC1: 'Comment on wcd-2021-29', Anonymous Referee #1, 10 Jun 2021
The authors examine the relationship between extratropical cyclones, South Pacific - Atlantic intraseasonal variability and extreme significant wave height (swh) values in the western South Atlantic (wSA). Specifically, the authors analyze storm track modulation due to westerlies winds and in particular the intraseasonal component of the Pacific South–American (PSA) mode. Empirical orthogonal function (EOF) analysis of the 10m zonal wind and swh were made using ERA5 reanalysis data in order to assess the westerlies and waves regime in the wSA.
The authors found that (1) the intraseasonal signal over the wSA does indeed have a strong role in determining the magnitude of the wave field and that the internal variability of the westerly jets provide the requisite local forcing. The subsequent finding that this intraseasonal variability is in fact linked to the PSA modes is well supported.
I found this paper generally well written with a solid analysis and a plausible framework.
I would recommend that the authors revise the manuscript to remove the many minor typographical errors and to improve the grammatical errors.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/wcd-2021-29-RC1 -
AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Dalton Sasaki, 28 Jul 2021
We appreciate your revision and comment. We reviewed the new version of the manuscript to correct typos and grammar.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/wcd-2021-29-AC1
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Dalton Sasaki, 28 Jul 2021
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RC2: 'Comment on wcd-2021-29', Anonymous Referee #2, 23 Jun 2021
Review for “Intraseasonal variability of wind waves in the western South Atlantic: the role of cyclones and the Pacific South-American pattern” by Sasaki et al.
Recommendation: Major revision.
The authors examine the causes for the “significant wave height” (swh) in the western South Atlantic (wSA) region on intra-seasonal timescales. They use EOF analysis and cyclone tracking and find that the different phases of EOF1,2 of u10 are responsible for larger/smaller swh in wSA, as well as that the u10 variability is related to the intra-seasonal variability within the Pacific South-American (PSA) pattern, suggesting a remote impact on the wSA atmosphere-ocean variability. Their results are important for further understanding of the causes of swh, which has large societal impacts (especially on intra-seasonal timescales), thus I recommend this manuscript for the publication in the Weather and Climate Dynamics, subject to revisions suggested below.
Major comments
There are a few parts that I found a bit confusing and would like to see them clarified before the manuscript is published.
l. 33-38: you seem to talk about SAM and NAO as though they are primarily interannual indices, but they are really oscillations that we consider relevant on weekly/submonthly timescale. They do of course exhibit interannual, decadal, multidecadal variability. I just think that the wording is perhaps confusing, or maybe I am not understating the point here. ENSO of course is interannual and it can impact SAM/NAO on those timescales, but SAM/NAO are primarily subseasonal. I think this should be corrected throughout the manuscript. It is also confusing when you say that there is no link to SAM here, then discuss later in the results that there is a link?
l. 164-170; Fig. 5:
- phase A in timeseries is when PC is strongly positive (Fig. 5a), hence I would expect the EOF pattern for phase A to be a positive-monopole (i.e. Fig. 5b would then have red colours and 5c blue colours).
- Also, scale on colourbar seems wrong or maybe scale for PC timeseries is wrong? Is it really in metres?
- Also, I think it might be better to use u10 in Fig. 5 instead of swh, since you mostly look at composites for u10. Perhaps put current Fig. 5 in Appendix together with all other composites for swh EOFs.
- For the sake of consistency, I think you should composite all quantities based on the same variable (i.e. u10, swh, cyclogenesis etc. composited over EOFs of u10; or alternatively over EOFs of swh)
- There seem to be differences between composites over EOFs of u10 and EOFs of swh (see below).
Section 3.2: in several places you mention that composites from u10 EOFs are similar/consistent with composites over swh EOFs. I see many differences between the two.
- Fig. 6 vs. Fig. B2:
- panels (a) largely show opposite sign (where track density is positive in Fig. B2a it is negative in Fig. 6a); and swh composites show weaker anomalies.
- panels (b) show a meridional shift between swh and u10 composites (tracks in u10 composite are shifted polewards compared with tracks in swh composite). By how much it is hard to tell. Again, composites over swh show weaker anomalies.
- panels (c,d) are somewhat consistent (though it is hard to tell), but anomalies are weaker for swh composites.
- Perhaps the issues is that swh lags behind u10 – e.g. if you do lag-correlations between PCs of u10 and swh you may find a lead-lag relationship between the two. So instead of correlating the two at lag 0 like in Table 1, correlate them for several positive and negative lags, to establish a clearer relationship. If you then lag data accordingly you might then get the “same” results for swh and u10 composites – or just plot general lag-composites. OR the swh and u10 peak in different locations.
- Another thing I can think of is that EOF1 and EOF2 may not be entirely independent at longer lags (at lag 0 they are by definition uncorrelated) and may represent propagating mode (i.e. if you did a POP analysis [and I am not suggesting you do it] you might find EOF1,2 of u10 to represent the same POP’s real and imaginary components). Indeed, PSA (and also SAM) modes are like that and if EOFs1,2 of u10 are related to PSA modes then this can also be a part of the story (i.e. both modes impacting swh at different lags).
- Also, I think that u10/swh A & B composites should be shown over the same regions as cyclone tracks and genesis – that way a link between these quantities can be clearer; i.e. use Fig. 6 type plots also in Fig. 5b,c, & Figs. 7,8.
- Note that track densities following wind anomalies are likely consistent with positive baroclinic feedback (such as that presented in Robinson 2000).
- l. 182: you mention SAM: so do you ultimately find any links to SAM or not?
l. 201-208: Similar to the above comments: swh and u10 seem to be out of phase – perhaps plotting both of them on the same plot (one in contours and one in shading) could help you (or me) whether they are out of phase and by how much. Again, there is likely a lead-lag relationship or they are simply peaking in different locations.
l. 216-217: I can also see SW-NE orientation south-west of SBB, which makes me wonder if this is what brings high shww to SBB?
Fig. 9: I think I can see cyclone-anticyclone (trough-ridge) pairs in all panels, but the exact position, orientation and magnitude differ. For example, Fig. 9a,d have the pair oriented along the S. America coast (i.e. SW-NE), but in Fig. 9b,c the orientation is perpendicular to the coast (i.e. NW-SE).
- Perhaps you could think about a future study where you could do a regime perspective (e.g. using K-means) to really classify different regimes that cause this swh. [just a suggestion for future work]
Fig. 11 and discussion around it:
- The years/dates discussed in text and Fig. caption do not match panel titles. So I am not sure if the panels are wrong, or their titles.
- I also find it hard to follow what feature the authors are talking about – I suggest circling the features you discuss (or drawing a line along the wave train)
Overall, I think that some lead-lag relationships are missing, and that once those are established everything will make sense.
Other comments
- “wind waves” – are you referring to storm surge or something else? Please clarify in the introduction.
- l. 4: westerlies --> westerly
- l. 5: analysis --> analyses
- l. 12: cyclones track --> cyclone tracks
- l. 20: drive --> driving
- l. 33-34: indexes --> indices
- l. 41,42: presumably it is “swh in wSA”?
- l. 38-43: You mention that BSISO is relevant for boreal summer (austral winter), I would mention that ENSO-MJO is an austral summer phenomenon; e.g. adding “austral summer” in front of “swh” on l. 42.
- l. 54: on --> in
- l. 67: as well as --> but also (??)
- l. 87: being --> with (??) ; variable in --> variables on
- l. 88: in --> on
- l. 96: presents --> has (??)
- l. 105: Sect. --> Appendix (??)
- l. 112,337: superscript degrees (“o”)
- l. 121: by “mean daily climatology” – have you smoothed it or is it raw mean? [just checking]
- l. 134: link is unnecessary, just keep “O’Kane et al. (2017)”.
- Fig. 2: u10 EOFs look more tilted than EOFs of swh; the location of negative lobes of u10 EOF1,2 are where SAM can have an impact (which is somewhat mentioned later in the text);
- Table 1: I am little bit confused by the correlations – EOF1 u10 vs EOF1 swh is a positive correlation; but other u10 and swh correlations are negative, suggesting anti-correlation (i.e. positive u10 mode related to negative swh mode – strong for EOF2). Table caption – if correlations are computed at “lag-0” please specify it.
- Fig. 4: Is there no red-noise-like low-frequency “peak” because you consider periods shorter than 16 years or? I would expect red-noise like behaviour at low frequencies.
- l. 173,6: on Appendix B --> in Appendix B
- l. 184: B --> B (A)
- l. 215: being --> with (??)
- Caption to Fig. 9: (a) --> (a,c) ; (b) --> (b,d) ; add “for EOF1 (a,b), EOF2 (c,d): after “B”. (??)
- l. 220-229: you mention cyclones in different locations, but I also see anticyclone-like features over the continents in some cases and over the sea in other cases.
- l. 223-224: you see a cyclone to the southwest of SBB in Fig. 9c? Is it outside the map’s bounds (i.e. not shown)?
- l. 247, caption to Fig. 12: HovmoÌllers --> HovmoÌller
- l. 285: up-level --> upper-level
- l. 286: 1997).. --> 1997). [one dot too many]
- l. 292-3: As mentioned under major comments: swh and u10 modes can be out of phase.
- l. 344-348: I know the authors find no tropical links, but the impact from PSA on genesis reminds me of the paper by Schemm et al. 2018, who showed that N. Atlantic genesis location depended on ENSO phase (here it may depend on PSA phase).
- l. 358: once --> since (??)
- l. 372: direct --> direction (??)
Note: “(??)” means “Is this what you meant?” or “Something like this perhaps?”.
References:
Robinson, W. A. (2000). A Baroclinic Mechanism for the Eddy Feedback on the Zonal Index, Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences, 57(3), 415-422
Schemm, S., Rivière, G., Ciasto, L. M., & Li, C. (2018). Extratropical Cyclogenesis Changes in Connection with Tropospheric ENSO Teleconnections to the North Atlantic: Role of Stationary and Transient Waves, Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences, 75(11), 3943-3964
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/wcd-2021-29-RC2 -
AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Dalton Sasaki, 30 Jul 2021
We sincerely appreciate your comments and careful revision of our work. We tried to address all the highlighted issues and to make the manuscript clearer and more consistent. We believe after this revision the article improved immensely.
It is important to clarify that most of the major issues addressed in this revision were due to a systematic error during the manuscript preparation and we deeply apologize for that. At early stages of this study, we were using an opposite signal orientation in the PC time series and EOF spatial patterns, but during the work evolution we changed the EOF and PC signal to have a more intuitive discussion (notice that the reversal of signal in combined EOF and PC time series does not affect the reconstruction of the signal). Unfortunately, one table and one figure panel were not updated correctly, resulting in some inconsistencies between them and text. These failures do not affect the discussion and conclusion of the work, since the analysis was made with the correct values/figures. The problem occurred only in the manuscript compilation. After this revision, we double check all information, tables, figures and everything is correct for the reviewed version. All revised lines in this reply refer to the new version, unless specified otherwise.
Major comments:
- 33-38: you seem to talk about SAM and NAO as though they are primarily interannual indices, but they are really oscillations that we consider relevant on weekly/submonthly timescale. They do of course exhibit interannual, decadal, multidecadal variability. I just think that the wording is perhaps confusing, or maybe I am not understating the point here. ENSO of course is interannual and it can impact SAM/NAO on those timescales, but SAM/NAO are primarily subseasonal. I think this should be corrected throughout the manuscript. It is also confusing when you say that there is no link to SAM here, then discuss later in the results that there is a link?
Reply: We are sorry for the confusing bits regarding SAM and NAO variability. The reason we put it in terms of interannual variability is the following: our references (Reguero 2015: SAM interannual. Dodet et al. 2013: NAO interannual) refer to the interannual component effect of these indices on the surface gravity waves parameters. We introduced the interannual variability to present a general idea of which scales may be relevant for the regional wave variability. We rewrote the text to make the idea clear (lines 32-38):
”Apart from the seasonal scales, a possible source of predictability of the wave climate could be related to the atmospheric interannual and intraseasonal variability. For instance, the North Atlantic Oscillation interannual variability is relevant in the modulation of significant wave height (swh) in the North Atlantic (Dodet et al., 2010). In the South Atlantic, Pereira and Klumb-Oliveira (2015) observed a significant but weak El Niño Southern Oscillation (ENSO) signal in the swh in wSA. However, so far global studies of wind–wave showed no significant relation between climate indices such as the ENSO or the Southern AnnularMode (SAM) and the wave climate over the wSA, when the interannual component is considered (Godoi et al., 2020; Godoiand Torres Júnior, 2020; Reguero et al., 2015).“
In the discussion, we did not intend to discuss SAM as a cause of variability. In fact, our results show no correlation with SAM and the PCs, which is clarified between lines 256-258 of the reviewed version:
“ In the present study, correlation analysis at lag-0 between the PCs (monthly averages) and monthly SAM index (Marshall, 2003) yield values smaller than 0.1, indicating SAM is not relevant regionally. Hence, we concentrate our analysis on the PSA modes.”
164-170; Fig. 5:
- phase A in timeseries is when PC is strongly positive (Fig. 5a), hence I would expect the EOF pattern for phase A to be a positive-monopole (i.e. Fig. 5b would then have red colours and 5c blue colours).
Reply: The swh composite with negative values in Fig 5b is related to the PC in Fig 5a and the EOF pattern in Fig 2c, which also presents negative values. Hence, an increase in the PC value leads to a decrease of the swh fields, as shown in Fig 5b through the composite. We used green and orange in phases A and B of the PC instead of red and blue to avoid an association with positive and negative phases, as the interpretation depends on the EOF spatial pattern. Since this whole idea was not clear, we rewrote the paragraph (line 163-168):
“n the following sections, the intraseasonal relationship between the variability of swh, cyclone genesis and track densities is studied using composites of wave and wind fields based on EOF phases of u10 and swh. We define phase A (B) periods when the PC values are greater (smaller) than 1 standard deviation. These time series have physical meaning only when interpreted in conjunction with the spatial patterns of the EOFs (Fig. 2). For instance, phase A (B) corresponds to positive (negative) values in the time series (Fig. 5a) and the phase combination with the spatial patterns of the EOFs (Fig. 2) generates reconstructed fields with negative (positive) values (not shown), which correspond to the composite fields (Fig. 5b,c)”
- Also, scale on colourbar seems wrong or maybe scale for PC timeseries is wrong? Is it really in metres?
Reply: The unit in the colourbar is correct, as it refers to the field composites (average of the field during a given phase). In order to find the EOFs, we used the covariance matrix and did not scale the principal component to unit variance, hence the relatively large values in the y-axis. If it was scaled, the dashed lines would coincide with the |1 standard deviation| reference.
Also, I think it might be better to use u10 in Fig. 5 instead of swh, since you mostly look at composites for u10. Perhaps put current Fig. 5 in Appendix together with all other composites for swh EOFs.
- For the sake of consistency, I think you should composite all quantities based on the same variable (i.e. u10, swh, cyclogenesis etc. composited over EOFs of u10; or alternatively over EOFs of swh)
- There seem to be differences between composites over EOFs of u10 and EOFs of swh (see below).
Reply: We agree that u10 is a better choice in Fig.5 and we replaced the figure. All composite quantities in the text are now consistent with the EOFs of u10. Also, we included the phase composites of both u10 and swh (supplementary material Figs C1,C2), which are helpful in the interpretation of the results. We also added the following text to mention the new figures in line 155: “The phase composites of u10 and swh of the corresponding EOF modes are included in Appendix C”.
Section 3.2: in several places you mention that composites from u10 EOFs are similar/consistent with composites over swh EOFs. I see many differences between the two.
- Fig. 6 vs. Fig. B2:
- panels (a) largely show opposite sign (where track density is positive in Fig. B2a it is negative in Fig. 6a); and swh composites show weaker anomalies.
- panels (b) show a meridional shift between swh and u10 composites (tracks in u10 composite are shifted polewards compared with tracks in swh composite). By how much it is hard to tell. Again, composites over swh show weaker anomalies.
- panels (c,d) are somewhat consistent (though it is hard to tell), but anomalies are weaker for swh composites.
Reply: Panel (a): Thank you very much for the warning. As mentioned before, we had problems during the manuscript compilation and the wrong figure was attached to the panel (Fig. B2a). Panel (b): The meridional shift mentioned in the comment is indeed present within the density track composites. When mentioning the similarities, we refer mainly to the fact that the large-scale signature of EOFs consists of a tripole with a similar spatial structure. In this case, the similar large scale pattern (including the signal) is enough to affirm that they are ‘consistent’ because the swh field represents the sum of wind-waves (locally forced waves) and the swell component (remotely forced waves). Regarding the ‘weaker anomalies’ we cited it in line 175 (original document): “The swh related fields are slightly weaker, showing a weaker response of swh EOFs phases, which is expected once this field is also influenced by remote forcing (i.e., swell)”. We addressed this behavior to the fact that the wave field is influenced not only by the local wind but also by the remote wind once waves can propagate through the ocean. We clarified it in a new paragraph (line 193-204):
“The density differences based on the EOFs of swh revealed patterns similar to the u10 case (Appendix B, Fig. B2). The stormtrack differences also present a tripole pattern as a consequence of the large-scale wind, similarly to Fig 6. However, these swh related fields are slightly weaker when compared to the u10 case. This weaker response occurs because the swh is integrated by the local (wind-wave) and remote wave (swell) signal (Young, 1999; Chen et al., 2002). Strong winds associated with the cyclones contribute directly to the local generation and development of wind-waves, reflecting in the observed similarities between Figs. 6 and B2. On the other hand, the remote wave signal – the swell – consists of propagating waves generated elsewhere (Alves, 2006; Ardhuin et al., 2009). In other words, the wind and wave fields are partially coupled through wind-waves,which explains the weaker signal in Fig. B2. Also, a meridional shift of a few degrees between the track composites in Fig.2006 and Fig. B2 is present. This shift can be explained by the generation mechanisms of waves within the asymmetric structure of extratropical cyclones. The fully developed sea-state presents higher swh and takes place in the downwind end of the fetch(e.g., Ardhuin and Orfila, 2018), which is usually located northwest from the cyclone center in the wSA (Gramcianinov et al.,2021).”
- Perhaps the issue is that swh lags behind u10 – e.g. if you do lag-correlations between PCs of u10 and swh you may find a lead-lag relationship between the two. So instead of correlating the two at lag 0 like in Table 1, correlate them for several positive and negative lags, to establish a clearer relationship. If you then lag data accordingly you might then get the “same” results for swh and u10 composites – or just plot general lag-composites. OR the swh and u10 peak in different locations.
Reply: We believe that the explanation and clarification about this theme were addressed in the last topic, as the comment was based on a figure that we corrected. Notice that waves development after the winds takes only a few hours and this difference is filtered out by the band-pass filter.
- Another thing I can think of is that EOF1 and EOF2 may not be entirely independent at longer lags (at lag 0 they are by definition uncorrelated) and may represent propagating mode (i.e. if you did a POP analysis [and I am not suggesting you do it] you might find EOF1,2 of u10 to represent the same POP’s real and imaginary components). Indeed, PSA (and also SAM) modes are like that and if EOFs1,2 of u10 are related to PSA modes then this can also be a part of the story (i.e. both modes impacting swh at different lags).
Reply: We appreciate the comment and will take the POP analysis into account in future studies, but we reinforce that the negative correlation was due to the systematic error we corrected.
- Also, I think that u10/swh A & B composites should be shown over the same regions as cyclone tracks and genesis – that way a link between these quantities can be clearer; i.e. use Fig. 6 type plots also in Fig. 5b,c, & Figs. 7,8.
Reply: The u10 and swh composites were made to the Southwest South Atlantic, which is the focus of the work. We believe that increasing the domain to evaluate the impacts of the variability in the u10 and swh fields would be detrimental to the regional assessment and compromise our goal. In the case of the cyclone track and genesis, it was necessary to have a larger domain once the cyclone's pattern is more related to large-scale circulation and the wave fields can be influenced by cyclones that occur further south.
- Note that track densities following wind anomalies are likely consistent with positive baroclinic feedback (such as that presented in Robinson 2000).
Reply: Very good comment, thank you. We added this information in lines 190-192:
“In both cases, the coupling between track densities and zonal wind anomalies are consistent with positive baroclinic feedback (Robinson, 2000),which shows that the mean flow modifications by baroclinic eddies, i.e., cyclones, reinforce the low-level baroclinicity.”
- 182: you mention SAM: so do you ultimately find any links to SAM or not?
Reply: Our results show no correlation with SAM and the PCs, as we answered in an earlier comment.
- 201-208: Similar to the above comments: swh and u10 seem to be out of phase – perhaps plotting both of them on the same plot (one in contours and one in shading) could help you (or me) whether they are out of phase and by how much. Again, there is likely a lead-lag relationship or they are simply peaking in different locations.
Reply: We apologize again for the signal mistake in Fig. B2(a). We hope this question is solved with the correct figure. In any case, the filter we applied (line 125-129) removed propagating signals from swh and u10, which implies the variables are peaking at different locations. This is expected due to the swell component in the swh, which does not depend on the local wind, as mentioned already in some comments above.
- 216-217: I can also see SW-NE orientation south-west of SBB, which makes me wonder if this is what brings high shww to SBB?
Reply: This is an interesting observation, thank you. It is difficult to relate the observed pattern in Fig. 7 and 8 with the high shww in the SBB (Fig. 9) because the shww is the locally forced fraction of the swh, so the swh field south-west of SBB would not influence the shww in the SBB. The above-mentioned SW-NE orientation indicates the fetches orientation in the region - which is explored more further on in the manuscript. We added a comment in lines 218-220:
“However, the SW-NE orientation of the anomalies is more evident in the extreme composites, which indicates the dominant orientation of the wave generation fetches in the wSA (e.g., Campos et al., 2018; Gramcianinovet al., 2021).”
Fig. 9: I think I can see cyclone-anticyclone (trough-ridge) pairs in all panels, but the exact position, orientation and magnitude differ. For example, Fig. 9a,d have the pair oriented along the S. America coast (i.e. SW-NE), but in Fig. 9b,c the orientation is perpendicular to the coast (i.e. NW-SE).
- Perhaps you could think about a future study where you could do a regime perspective (e.g. using K-means) to really classify different regimes that cause this swh. [just a suggestion for future work]
Reply: The suggestion of using a regime perspective is really great. Actually, we had similar ideas when we first saw these patterns and we are already working on it in a forth-coming study. We added some comments (line 242-248) about the cyclone-anticyclone patterns (Fig. 9), which have been proved to play a big role in extreme wave generation:
“Composites of transient-related events are often noisy since the cyclone’s position and associated features (e.g.,cold and warm fronts) are mobile. For this reason, the wind patterns in Fig. 9 do not present a closed cyclonic circulation, but a trough instead. It is also possible to see cyclone-anticyclone (trough-ridge) pairs with different orientations, positions, and magnitudes.This happens due to the rich variety of atmospheric patterns associated with extreme waves in the wSA (da Rocha et al., 2004; Solari and Alonso, 2017; Gramcianinov et al., 2020c). In fact, Gramcianinov et al. (2020c) showed that the presence and relative position of the anticyclone to the cyclone may contribute to the extreme wave event generation by enlarging the fetch and increasing the wind speed”
Fig. 11 and discussion around it:
- The years/dates discussed in text and Fig. caption do not match panel titles. So I am not sure if the panels are wrong, or their titles.
Reply: We are sorry for the mismatchment, the panels were addressing another period and we corrected it in Fig. 11.
- I also find it hard to follow what feature the authors are talking about – I suggest circling the features you discuss (or drawing a line along the wave train)
Reply: We added lines in Fig. 11, as suggested, and also altered the text (lines 291-293) and replaced specific dates to visual markers:
“Green dashed lines in Fig 11 exemplify positive signals in between 180◦W and 90◦W propagating towards 30◦W. These signals take up to four month to cross the South-Pacific domain. Other features can be noted as westward propagating signals (light green dotted lines), ”
Overall, I think that some lead-lag relationships are missing, and that once those are established everything will make sense.
Reply: We appreciate all the comments. As explained before, the issues regarding the lead-lag relationship were related to a panel that didn’t present the right information. We hope that with the changes, corrections, and clarifications, the proposed relations make more sense now.
Other comments
Rephy: We accepted all minor corrections. Here we reply to the remaining questions.- “wind waves” – are you referring to storm surge or something else? Please clarify in the introduction. Reply: Thank you for the comment. Wind-waves are gravity waves generated by the wind, with a larger frequency than storm surge. We added a brief explanation in the first paragraph.
- l. 121: by “mean daily climatology” – have you smoothed it or is it raw mean? [just checking] Reply: The mean daily climatology is simply the climatological mean of each day of the year over the entire ERA5 dataset. In other words we have ~365 daily climatological means.
- Fig. 2: u10 EOFs look more tilted than EOFs of swh; the location of negative lobes of u10 EOF1,2 are where SAM can have an impact (which is somewhat mentioned later in the text); Reply: We found no correlation between SAM and the EOFs, as commented in an earlier reply.
- Table 1: I am little bit confused by the correlations – EOF1 u10 vs EOF1 swh is a positive correlation; but other u10 and swh correlations are negative, suggesting anti-correlation (i.e. positive u10 mode related to negative swh mode – strong for EOF2). Table caption – if correlations are computed at “lag-0” please specify it. Reply: All correlations are computed in lag-0. Actually both the signals in the column of EOF2 u10 were inverted, as explained in the replies above.
- Fig. 4: Is there no red-noise-like low-frequency “peak” because you consider periods shorter than 16 years or? I would expect red-noise like behaviour at low frequencies. Reply: There is little to no red-noise in the signal (the time series of EOF). This was surprising for us as well at first, but it makes sense when we consider the results from Reguero et al. 2015. These authors made several global analyses and showed no significant signal in interannual scales with respect to several climate indexes in the South Atlantic. The South America continent probably blocks/filters incoming surface wave signals (and u10) from the Pacific, which carry interannual information. Also, when we evaluate the time series anomalies at several spatial positions of u10, v10 and swh (not shown) there is no ‘structure’ that resembles periods higher than 1-2 years (frequencies lower than 1-0.5year-1). This was supported by the time series in Fig. 3, where the results almost behave as white noise, which is coherent with the wavelets figures.
- l. 220-229: you mention cyclones in different locations, but I also see anticyclone-like features over the continents in some cases and over the sea in other cases. Reply: We hope we replied to this comment in the questions above and with the addition of the text in the lines 242-248 of the revised manuscript.
- l. 223-224: you see a cyclone to the southwest of SBB in Fig. 9c? Is it outside the map’s bounds (i.e. not shown)? Reply: The cyclone center positions on Fig. 9 are marked with black dots, but due to the positional spread the wind composites don't show the cyclone clearly but a trough instead. The trough plus the cyclone center locations supported the discussion between lines 226 and 233, and we added a comment on that in lines 242-248
- l. 292-3: As mentioned under major comments: swh and u10 modes can be out of phase. Reply: We hope this was solved in the major comments replies.
l. 344-348: I know the authors find no tropical links, but the impact from PSA on genesis reminds me of the paper by Schemm et al. 2018, who showed that N. Atlantic genesis location depended on ENSO phase (here it may depend on PSA phase). Reply: Thanks for the reference, this is a very interesting paper. It probably will be helpful in future studies in explaining physical processes that influence the propagation of the PSA signal from the Pacific to the Atlantic and ultimately the cyclogenesis and wave fields.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/wcd-2021-29-AC2