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https://doi.org/10.5194/wcd-6-1045-2025
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the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License.QBOi El Niño–Southern Oscillation experiments: overview of the experimental design and ENSO modulation of the QBO
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Decades ago Richard Lindzen came to the conclusion that the quasi-biennial oscillation (QBO) could not be caused by tidal forcing, despite it's obvious potential as a driving mechanism. Negative results are often difficult to find in the literature, but Lindzen mentioned this in two passages:
At this point of QBO historical data there were only 6 to 8 complete cycles to draw from, yet Lindzen apparently missed the possibility of nonlinear aliasing the lunar cycle against the annual cycle. The only candidate due to QBO wavenumber=0 group symmetry arguments is the 27.2122 day nodal (aka draconic) lunar cycle, which generates a (365.242/27.212) mod 1 = 2.37 year physically aliased repeat period. This matches the historical record, continuing decades later from these early Lindzen studies, see Ref [1].
From EGUSPHERE-2024-3270, this passage needs clarification:
Geller et al., 1997; Salby and Callahan, 2000; Hamilton, 2002, Kane, 2004; Taguchi, 2010). "
By "solar activity", one can't imply that is related to sunspot activity, as that is minor compared to the annual or seasonal solar cycle. In fact, the annual solar cycle figures into the same nodal symmetry group as the Semi-Annual Oscillation (SAO) which exists directly above the QBO in altitude. The topological similarity in the nodal driving force behind both the SAO and QBO (the former solar nodal, and the latter solar+lunar nodal) is described in detail in Ref [1].
References
[1] Pukite, P., Coyne, D. and Challou, D. (2018). Wind Energy. In Mathematical Geoenergy (John Wiley & Sons). https://doi.org/10.1002/9781119434351.ch11